Interview with the founder of the Internet edition “GORDON” Dmitry Gordon with the leader of the Russian fighters on Donbass Igor Girkin (Strelkov) has historical significance and it “will be retaining material in court.” About it in interview to “KP in Ukraine”, said the General producer of the talk show “Freedom of speech Savik Shuster” Pavel Yelizarov.
“Joe is very well prepared for the interview. He analyzed a lot of facts, and all questions asked, systemic and structural. Roughly speaking, in an interview has a whole range of events that took place at that time. It definitely has some historical significance for future analysis, like what we have done. And will be retaining material in court,” said Elizarov.
He recalled that five years ago, Schuster interviewed two Russian members of spetsnaz Sergeant Alexander Alexandrov and captain Evgeny Erofeev, who was detained near the city Happiness of the Luhansk region on may 16, 2015 during the fight with unit APU. Both were injured and were hospitalized in one of hospitals of Kiev. The court found them guilty of waging aggressive war in the territory of Ukraine, participation in a terrorist organization and committing a terrorist act. Alexander and Yerofeyev in Ukraine, was sentenced to 14 years in prison. At the end of may 2016, they traded for Nadiya Savchenko.
“We’ve had a similar situation when detained two Russian saboteurs. Then the head of the SBU was Valentin Nalyvaychenko. He invites us and says: there are Russian, they are lying wounded in the hospital, you can do an interview. To talk, to show that Russian soldiers are present on Ukrainian territory. Because at that time everyone said – they are not. Savik did an interview with these soldiers, we were all shown on TV. Time passed and we receive a subpoena. Because the soldiers decided to change his testimony and began to tell me that it was not even wrong when they were interviewed. As it turned out, if we did not have this interview, the judge would be harder to make a decision”, – said Elizarov.
The General producer is convinced that such an interview was necessary to “know the enemy” and added that it is primarily an interview with Girkin “the Russian uncomfortable”.
“So the precedent is actually already there. Just now staged hype. My personal position is – we must know the enemy who he is, why he made those or other actions, needs to draw conclusions. Interview with Girkin may not like a lot of people in Ukraine who can also behave properly in that period. And it is inconvenient to the Russians. Dima was one on one,” said Elizarov.
He added that he believes act Gordon bold, because after such an interview, which caused a resonance in society, there is a “danger for his life and health.”
He [Gordon] was a freelance journalist. Don’t know, would I have the courage to enter into such an argument. I’m not sure. I do not believe that today’s society is ready to look broadly at the process. Dima is definitely a brave man. Don’t know if I was ready to take such an interview even with the fear for their life and health. And I’d like then to go outside with the children without protection”, – summed up the session.
An interview with Gordon Girkin was released in YouTube on 18 may. It was recorded via Skype. During the interview Girkin admitted that he gave the orders to kill Ukrainians, and mentioned the names of activists who were shot by his orders. A number of journalists, politicians and activists criticized the interview. They said that the way Gordon legitimitize criminals in the Ukrainian information space. May 18, under the editorship of the publication “GORDON” in Kiev, the activists held a rally.
In the office of the attorney General reported that information from an interview with Girkin and former “Prosecutor” Russia annexed the Crimea Natalia Polonskaya, which was released earlier this month, will be attached to criminal proceedings which relate to the armed aggression of Russia against Ukraine. “I can only Express gratitude and not to be criticized for the testimony of those who heard our society and law enforcement agencies. Including of the accident flight MH17,” – said Deputy Prosecutor General Gunduz Mammadov after the interview with Girkin.
Sam Gordon, stated that the interviews were made “in collaboration with the Ukrainian special services.” According to him, information about the crimes against Ukraine, voiced in an interview with Polonskaya and Girkin, transferred to the Hague for use as evidence in a trial on the annexation of Crimea and military aggression in Donbas.
Investigative journalist group Bellingcat international Hristo Grozev believes that the information sounded Girkin, can be used in litigation against the latter. “It’s obvious to me that some of the questions were prepared with the aim that Girkin is caught,” – said the representative of the Bellingcat.
In the SBU said that the program Poklonsky and Girkin are studied for evidence of Russian aggression against Ukraine, and noted that the interview was the initiative of a journalist.
During the annexation of Crimea by Russia in February – March 2014 the citizen of the Russian Federation Girkin was an adviser to the head of the occupation administration Sergei Aksyonov. From April to August of 2014 participated in the military conflict in the Donbas. Under his leadership, in April, the militants captured the town of Slavyansk, Donetsk region (they held the city until July). In early August it became known that Girkin has resigned “defense Minister DNR” and returned to Russia.
Girkin is wanted in Ukraine. He raised suspicions on a number of articles of the Criminal code, including article 258-3 (creation of terrorist group or terrorist organization), article 294 (mass unrest), article 258 (terrorist act), article 341 (seizure of state or public buildings or structures). Is one of the four accused in the case of the crash Malaysian Boeing 777 in the sky above the Donbass July 17, 2014. The trial is held in the Netherlands, Girkin refused to participate in it. Is under EU sanctions and the United States.